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Lord Ryan
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Posted - 2012.06.22 20:17:00 -
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Not really sure what happened. But it sounds like CCP robbed the goons. Who would have thought CCP would do something unethical! But than again it's not the first time they punished someone for breaking a rule retoactively. Imagine that in real life. You put on a yellow shirt and leave your house. Some corrupt offical see's you and decides yellow shirts should be illegal, goes home and rights up a new law. Next morning the SS kicks down your and arrest you for breaking the law. Good times! -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.22 20:24:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Pr1ncess Alia wrote:Aryth wrote:Ghost Xray wrote:Aryth wrote:CCP has now gone and nuked a ton of assets on our accounts. Meaning, we are losing wealth we had previous to this. Wow. But the message is clear. If you want to abuse something, you do not report it. As someone who tried to work with CCP, my advice to anyone in the future is. Don't. Or rather, if you're going to abuse the system do it at your own risk. Confessing your crimes doesn't seem to get you off the hook. If your interest is in helping improve the experience in the EvE community, just report the problem without abusing said problem. Then you can pat yourself on the back and maybe earn a little space respect. This could have been abused quietly for months. It wasn't. Many were already prepping to do it judging from the responses in this thread. The major point being. There is no incentive to report anything to CCP. You are far better off trying to get away with it quietly. well see, no They really aren't trying to punish you I'm sure. They are just trying to reverse the problem you simultaneously pointed out and created. If they wanted to punish you they'd ban you. You came forward, with much hubris, confidence, swagger, gloat and smug. They are fixing the problem as best they can. Next time? Sure, keep it to yourself. But when they do figure it out, that will be your ban ticket. Is doing the right thing for the game and community a concept you are incapable of understanding? How is taking assets purchased legitimately from the market weeks prior to any of this happening acceptable? Because that literally just happened.
Did you buy the the assets with RL ISK? If not it's all legit. Who cares if you made billions or trillions off asshatery. CCP has no business robbing you! -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.22 20:31:00 -
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Udonor wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote: Did I mention insurance fraud? Or Pax Amarria? I do not believe that I did. All I said was that anyone caught knowingly abusing a flaw in the system can, and will, have that profit removed. Whether that is by putting wallets in the negative, or by removing items, such as in this case.
Provide proof. Those instances are proof that very similar situations in the past were dealt with by changing the mechanic in question, with no repercussions to the people using them to profit. Precedent is set with them. Where is your proof that those cases are wrong? Actually CCP does take assets for true exploits of a CODING mistake. Like several years ago certain manufacturing processes weren't consuming inputs and you got outputs for free. Heh people got banned for that. This case is only an exploit in the ethical/philosophical sense. The code did EXACTLY what CCP desired. This was a case where CCP game designers failed to fully consider the consequences of the rules they set forth. Its no different from ship fitting rules that CCP eventually had to nerf in the past. Maybe a little more dramatic than most fitting mistakes (modules, stacking etc) that give someone too much advantage. I suspect CCP will handle this just like combats involving modules they have had to nerf in in the past. Since no coding issues were involved -- What is done is done.
That was wrong too. Those people shouldn't have been banned either. Things have gotten so bad at CCP that I actually feel the need to defend the goons. This is a sad day!
Disclaimer. Assuming any of what has been reported is true! -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.23 00:18:00 -
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Geertruida Zelle wrote:ok, some enterprising Goons did some homework and found a loophole and made some isk.- they didn't break the "law", they found a "legal loophole" and used it to their advantage.
Now its fine that CCP fix the loophole, but random seizure of assets is a step too far.
Shame on you CCP, you have done another poop in your own Sandpit.
^this -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |

Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.06.23 00:27:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Ituhata Saken wrote:Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons,
At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. DonGÇÖt be That Guy.
By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch.
So you screwed up and now you're retaliating? Nice! -á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it". I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
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